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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:I just ordered A hikvision DS-2CD2032-I should have it next week. I'll update this once I get tint. It's the 4mm lens version to replace an old Panasonic toshiba camera that is just not very clear. The reviews are outstanding on the camera, and I cannot wait to try it out.oh man. It came in today and of course I had to install it right away.
It's 10 times better than the toshiba. It looks like i'm recording in HD. (i may be actually). Even the Acti doesn't compare. I may be replacing all my cameras with the Hikvisions.
They are that good. I'm interested to see what it looks like at night.Post up some screen shots.
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:I just ordered A hikvision DS-2CD2032-I should have it next week. I'll update this once I get tint. It's the 4mm lens version to replace an old Panasonic toshiba camera that is just not very clear. The reviews are outstanding on the camera, and I cannot wait to try it out.oh man.
It came in today and of course I had to install it right away. It's 10 times better than the toshiba. It looks like i'm recording in HD.
(i may be actually). Even the Acti doesn't compare. I may be replacing all my cameras with the Hikvisions. They are that good. I'm interested to see what it looks like at night.Post up some screen shotsI was lurking and you guys convinced me to buy a hikvision DS-2CD2032-I but I cant make it workIts in a poe switch and the leds light up at first but I cant find it on the network.its slightly warm so I assume its functioning any suggestions? Originally Posted By NoloContendere:I just ordered A hikvision DS-2CD2032-I should have it next week.
I'll update this once I get tint. It's the 4mm lens version to replace an old Panasonic toshiba camera that is just not very clear. The reviews are outstanding on the camera, and I cannot wait to try it out.oh man.
It came in today and of course I had to install it right away. It's 10 times better than the toshiba. It looks like i'm recording in HD. (i may be actually). Even the Acti doesn't compare. I may be replacing all my cameras with the Hikvisions.
They are that good. I'm interested to see what it looks like at night.Post up some screen shotsI was lurking and you guys convinced me to buy a hikvision DS-2CD2032-I but I cant make it workIts in a poe switch and the leds light up at first but I cant find it on the network.its slightly warm so I assume its functioning any suggestions?You need Hikvision tools:Or you could check the DHCP server logs on your router.Or you could do a ping sweep in DOS to find it on your local subnet. Originally Posted By NoloContendere:I just ordered A hikvision DS-2CD2032-I should have it next week. I'll update this once I get tint. It's the 4mm lens version to replace an old Panasonic toshiba camera that is just not very clear.
The reviews are outstanding on the camera, and I cannot wait to try it out.oh man. It came in today and of course I had to install it right away. It's 10 times better than the toshiba.
It looks like i'm recording in HD. (i may be actually). Even the Acti doesn't compare. I may be replacing all my cameras with the Hikvisions.
They are that good. I'm interested to see what it looks like at night.Post up some screen shotsI was lurking and you guys convinced me to buy a hikvision DS-2CD2032-I but I cant make it workIts in a poe switch and the leds light up at first but I cant find it on the network.its slightly warm so I assume its functioning any suggestions?You need Hikvision tools:Or you could check the DHCP server logs on your router.Or you could do a ping sweep in DOS to find it on your local subnet.Fun tools and it sees the cam. Now how do i see what it sees? 192.0.0.64 in a browser says its not available. Originally Posted By BUCK1911:Fun tools and it sees the cam.
Now how do i see what it sees? 192.0.0.64 in a browser says its not availableWhat subnet are you using? Type 'ipconfig' at a DOS prompt on your computer and post the results.
You can get a DOS prompt by windows-button - All programs - Accessores - Command PromptIf you're not on a 192.168.0.x subnet, you won't be able to access the camera. If you're on a 192.168.1.x subnet, you'll need to use the Hikvision Tools to give it an IP address on your subnet (192.168.1.64 would work)Thanks just figuared it out. Didnt realize I needed to change IPs so I could see it. Wow great picture.Any suggestions on monitoring software? I have a lot of random cameras. Originally Posted By BUCK1911:Fun tools and it sees the cam. Now how do i see what it sees?
192.0.0.64 in a browser says its not availableWhat subnet are you using? Type 'ipconfig' at a DOS prompt on your computer and post the results.
You can get a DOS prompt by windows-button - All programs - Accessores - Command PromptIf you're not on a 192.168.0.x subnet, you won't be able to access the camera. If you're on a 192.168.1.x subnet, you'll need to use the Hikvision Tools to give it an IP address on your subnet (192.168.1.64 would work)Thanks just figuared it out. Didnt realize I needed to change IPs so I could see it. Wow great picture.Any suggestions on monitoring software? I have a lot of random cameras.The uber-inexpensive option is Blue Iris. I've used Luxriot, and Milestone for most of my installations. I've also used a Qnap network appliance (you have to buy camera licenses for it, but they will record).
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:Fun tools and it sees the cam. Now how do i see what it sees? 192.0.0.64 in a browser says its not availableWhat subnet are you using? Type 'ipconfig' at a DOS prompt on your computer and post the results. You can get a DOS prompt by windows-button - All programs - Accessores - Command PromptIf you're not on a 192.168.0.x subnet, you won't be able to access the camera. If you're on a 192.168.1.x subnet, you'll need to use the Hikvision Tools to give it an IP address on your subnet (192.168.1.64 would work)Thanks just figuared it out. Didnt realize I needed to change IPs so I could see it.
Wow great picture.Any suggestions on monitoring software? I have a lot of random cameras.The uber-inexpensive option is Blue Iris. I've used Luxriot, and Milestone for most of my installations.
I've also used a Qnap network appliance (you have to buy camera licenses for it, but they will record).Blue Iris and Milestone look affordable is there a big difference between the two? Here's my notes on camera software, heavily biased for my own use case. If you know of any else I should try I'll give them a shot:Use case:Personal home monitoringRequirements:1080p+ support4 Camera Minimum (More planned in future)Zone based record on motion (that actually works, customizable record time before/after motion, etc)Entirely home based, zero 'cloud' requirements. Can run on Windows Server 2012R2 or Linux, I can set up either and dedicate as many cores and memory as needed (My VM Server it would sit on has 16 cores and 72GB of memory). Storage space is not a huge issue, I can dedicate up to 10TB if needed, but I prefer to keep it around 2TB which is what it's set up with now.Secure remote access via exposed ports, i.e. Prefer it sit under IIS/Apache so I can setup SSL with client certs myself or at MINIMUM implement their own SSL stack.
Originally Posted By MrZeat:Here's my notes on camera software, heavily biased for my own use case. If you know of any else I should try I'll give them a shot:Use case:Personal home monitoringRequirements:1080p+ support4 Camera Minimum (More planned in future)Zone based record on motion (that actually works, customizable record time before/after motion, etc)Entirely home based, zero 'cloud' requirements. Can run on Windows Server 2012R2 or Linux, I can set up either and dedicate as many cores and memory as needed (My VM Server it would sit on has 16 cores and 72GB of memory). Storage space is not a huge issue, I can dedicate up to 10TB if needed, but I prefer to keep it around 2TB which is what it's set up with now.Secure remote access via exposed ports, i.e. Prefer it sit under IIS/Apache so I can setup SSL with client certs myself or at MINIMUM implement their own SSL stack.
Ok if you want to pick nits. It should have an A on Qualys SSL Test. Specific enough?For what it's worth my ZoneMinder setup is running on a vlan isolated fully patched Apache2 instance with only PFS suites enabled for TLSv2 and TLSv3 and a required client cert that chains up the same root if it matters.I ended up deciding to do the arfcom, get both though.
I run ZoneMinder for motion alerting and email notification and also remote access. Locally I also keep Luxriot running for 24/7 h264 recording which gives me a rolling 2 weeks or so of continuous video. I found the remote access, motion support, and email alerting lacking on Luxriot so I don't use those features. Originally Posted By Alan889:Anyone have experience with the Hikvision DS-7604 nvr? ADI has the 1TB version for $249, I'm thinking about ordering a few DS-2CD2032 cameras and the NVR to play with. Also is there an easy way to disable the leds without having to disassemble the cameras, or an equiv camera without the ir leds.I too am interesting in this.
I plan to order a few Hikvision cameras for around the house which NVR would be best?I'm liking this but it doesn't mention Hikvision so i might need to find a NVR and a separate PoE switch.Some of the Hikvision NVRs have built-in PoE.And you can disable the IR LEDs in software. Originally Posted By irishtech:Here is a fun comparison for you guys. 2 different cameras in the same spot on my house, angle is a little different but you can see the difference with 2.8mm vs 4mm.Just got the DS-2CD2132F-IS for my porch and this was one of the things I was kicking back and forth. I ended up with the 2.8mm and it was definitely the right choice for that close of an area.I'm tempted to call bullshit on the 4mm image you have there. That looks WAY too zoomed in for a 4mm lens. Are you sure that's not the 12mm variant?ETA: And I say 'bullshit' in the most friendly way possible.
I do appreciate the comparison!Well i ordered the 4mm, but i guess they could have shipped the 12mm. I have the Hikvision DS-2CD2732F-IS and it works great! I have it setup looking out to our parking lot - It's POE and includes features like Email Photo on Line Crossing. IR works great at night -I'm able to check the camera when I'm away from home on my iPhoneI've got it setup with a Cisco Managed Switch (SG300-28P)Found it on Ebay for right around $129Any questions feel free to ask!Using the line detection feature I took the pictures the camera emailed me and created a GIF from everyone walking in and out of the building.http://www.telephonebuyers.com/anigif.gif. Here's a copy-n-paste from the big CCTV thread in the SF.So I'm liking these Hikvision cameras more and more. I'm not usually a great fan of Chicom stuff, but the Hikvision cameras are really a bargain for the money.I just got my hands on a IR Mini Dome network camera:It's not a conventional dome.
It's more in line with some of the specialty 'mobile application' cameras made by companies like Axis:Here is the Hikvision, and it literally fits in the palm of your hand:The main unit is pretty well-sealed, and connections are made via several dongles, rather than within the body of the camera:The outer cover comes off the camera with four little security Torx screws (Hikvision supplies a little wrench to remove them). Note the outer cover is fully gasketed all the way around, so this should be a good weatherproof camera.There is a base that the camera mounts to, and a handy drill template to help set your holes correctly.Here is the camera next to a 30-round magazine, just for a size comparison. This thing is really quite small.OK. So let's get this installation party started.
First we need to figure out how big a hole saw we need to ceiling mount this camera (it's going on sheetrock, and is light enough that hitting a stud isn't going to be a requirement).The red one looks just about right (that's the same size hole-saw you'd use to put in a deadbolt)Forgot to mention. This camera also does internal storage, via a micro-SD card. The slot is on the back of the camera, and circled in redAnd if you get any fingerprints or smudges on the lens or cover while installing the camera, nothing works better to remove them than a good ole-fashioned Lenspen.Hikvision includes a nice gasketed cable connection with the camera.
I've assembled the component parts (in roughly the order they fit together) here:The round rubber cylinder (left arrow) has been inserted into the toothed end of that middle section (you'll see how it works in a minute), while the regular rubber gasket goes around the base of the camera dongle (right arrow)And the pieces screw right together. As you screw the left-sided end-cap on, the rubber cylinder inside gets compressed, allowing you to adapt it almost any diameter of cable:Leave it mostly unscrewed for a larger opening:Or tighten it down for a smaller cable:This model also has alarm and/or sensor I/O via four screw-down terminals. It also has audio-out for a speaker (if you want to speak to whoever you're seeing. The camera already has a built-in microphone, so listening is a breeze)Here is our template (and base) applied to the ceiling. I recommend taking a nail and making small intentions through the paper and into the sheetrock wherever the screw-holes are marked on the paper. This allows you to set the paper aside and still see your holes:That red hole-saw makes quick work of the gypsum board:I held a shop-vac up to the edge of the hole as I was drilling it.
This allowed me to make almost zero mess on my buddy's floorThe hole, with wires inserted up into the attic space (I made loops on the ends of the wires, and taped them back to the main cable, in order to make hooking them that much easier. We're close to the edge of a low roofline here, and crawling out there to grab them by hand may be impossible):Gah. I hate this part.
Particularly in the South. In friggin' August.Here we go. Base has been attached to the ceiling:Always remember to thread your cable through the gasket fitting BEFORE crimping the RJ-45 end onto it.
Even I still forget this sometimesAll hooked up (the alarm I/O is for an occupancy sensor the homeowner wants to use)Everything fits easily through that hole:And we are mounted:And now the other end of that cable. It will be attached to a standard keystone jack, and into a regular wall-plate:Always remember to put the blade-side of the punch-down tool (red arrow) to the OUTSIDE of the jack (where you see the loose ends sticking out).
You don't want to cut the wires on the INSIDE of that jack.BTW, Hikvision includes a little aiming tool to help adjust the camera lens. The two prongs you see sticking out of that ring I'm holding (it fits over the lens) go into two little holes in that plastic gimbal (holes marked with red arrows). You can't see them very well, but they are there. This tool really helps aim the camera.And on the topic of aiming, it deserves mention that this is NOT your typical dome camera. It's designed to look forward or down, but in one direction (+/- about 30 degrees to either side). If you mount it backwards, or expect to be able to rotate that lens 90-degrees to the right or left, you will NOT be able to do so. This camera seems designed for longer, narrow areas (like busses, or trains).
Take this into consideration when planning on where to mount it. You really need to mount that base in roughly the direction you want the camera to look.
This one was mounted square to that crown molding for aesthetic reasons, but there almost wasn't enough play in that lens gimbal to get the correct view. We were just lucky it worked.Here is the night view (pitch-black). I'd guess this room is roughly 20x30 feet.Pretty grainy with just the built-in IR LEDs. Still, they have a respectable throw for such a small camera.
Also, camera-integrated IR LEDs are something that I don't generally favor, but an exception can be made for indoor cameras, due to the absence of bugs/spiders.This camera has very respectable IR sensitivity. In fact, it's better than some more-expensive cameras I could mention (.cough. Acti.cough.). Here's what the addition of a single 12V IR dome illuminator (sitting on that counter, just out of view) makes to the scene (still pitch-black to the naked eye):An extra illuminator can make all the difference in the world to a camera's performance, and that goes for indoors as well as outdoors. I did something very similar in my own kitchen (I've mentioned it in this thread before, but it's shown again below). You can't see it, but there's an IR illuminator just out of the frame to the right, sitting on top of the bookcase (illuminators should never be in the direct view of the camera. Just out-of-frame for a bit of indirect lighting is ideal).
At night, the illuminator lights up the kitchen for a black-and-white mobotix dome mounted on the ceiling. Works like a charm. I'm going to recommend the above homeowner do the same.Conclusion:I'm very struck by how high the quality is on these newer Hikvision cameras, particularly when you consider their bargain price-point. This one was $229 at Nelly's.
A serious bargain for the performance and features in this 3MP IP camera. You literally were paying double or triple for the same kind of performance/feature-set just a few years ago. Longevity is still an open question, and as far as warranty, Hikvision does the Acti/Vivotek/etc buy-from-our-distributors-or-we-won't-honor-the-warranty stuff. Nelly's is an 'unauthorized' distributor, so you're on your own if it craps out, but at that price, you can afford to replace the occasional one that blows. The same can't be said for a $1600 Mobotix camera. So we're replacing an Acti box camera, which we'd previously mounted under an eave.There's a large IR panel illuminator mounted about five feet above the camera that provides area lighting at night.
Unfortunately, the Acti camera is appallingly IR-insensitive (even though it's a proper day/night camera with an IR-cut filter). That panel puts out 60 Watts of illumination, pulling slightly more than 4 Amps at 13VDC. It's a ferocious light source. Even the Axis/Raytec/Raymax panel illuminators only put out 10 Watts-per-panel.Unfortunately, here's what that Acti camera gives you at night, with it's SLOWEST shutter speed (which should significantly brighten the image, at the cost of blurring moving objects):It's quite good during the daytime, with a lot of quality optical zoom (35x) to bring distant objects close. It's capable of reading a license plate at nearly 100 meters. The zoom was used to cover the end of a residential driveway:We removed the old camera and took down the wall-mount.
We used a couple of the old holes to mount the Hikvision junction box to the brick:There's a handy white gasket that helps mate the camera base to that mounting box, with holes for all the cables:We'll clean up and loom the cabling later, but that's what it looks like mounted:The field of view isn't quite as tight as the Acti camera (it's hard to compete with that fantastic 35x optical zoom), but it should be adequate. That sidewalk is 60 feet away from the camera (measured with my Leupold laser rangefinder), and I'd estimate the FOV to be 30-feet across. Using the puts the FOV at 32-feet across, so I was pretty close.That puts 1920 pixels (across) to cover a 30-foot-wide area, so roughly 60 pixels-per-foot. That should be enough to read a license plate.And it is (this is cropped from the full-size image):That image actually helps validate the Pixels-per-foot chart shown at the beginning of this thread.
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It's pretty close:Note that the colors on the Hikvision camera look a little better and more realistic. The Acti's colors look a little washed-out by comparisonSo let us move on to the night image:Quite an improvement, and that's with the same shutter-speed as the Acti camera.Unfortunately, the light output is so great that it washes out the reflective surface of the license plate, and we lose the definition of the digits.
No amount of monkeying with the shutter-speed, WDR, or Smart-IR settings would provide sufficient contrast to show definition of those plate numbers at night. Part of the problem may be that huge honking illuminator blasting out IR light all over that area. The 'Smart IR' setting allows the camera to modulate its own IR settings, but it cannot control the IR output of the panel illuminator.
Sometimes you have to make trade-offs, and this is one the homeowner will have to live with.Another recommendation for the Hikvision camera.